tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862170131521435894.post8522588236469118384..comments2023-11-02T07:39:02.009-07:00Comments on Post-Modern Enlightenment: Antinatalism and The Problem of Happiness Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862170131521435894.post-81162871721191745632014-02-12T07:03:37.077-08:002014-02-12T07:03:37.077-08:00Your arguments have been addressed numerous times ...Your arguments have been addressed numerous times by the antinatalist camp.<br /><br />Suffering is axiomatically bad. Suffering is defined as whatever we try to avoid as much as possible in our day-to-day experience. The reason you aren't gouging your eyes out with a rusty nail at the moment, is because you want to avoid the severe physical and psychological pain it would cause. Human behavior would be completely different if we actually believed suffering was a "good" thing. In other words, we can put on a brave face and proclaim that "That which does not kill me makes me stronger", but this is just big talk, since nobody believes it in the real world. <br /><br />In the cases where we "choose" suffering (diet, studying, working out, etc.), it's only to avoid greater future suffering (unattractiveness, poor self-image, health problems, unemployment, etc.), and we make sure that this "chosen" suffering is as limited in scope and duration as possible, and is completely discarded as soon as our goals have been achieved.<br /><br />Relatively little of the total suffering in the world is so-called "instrumental" suffering (i.e. suffering that teaches us a lesson), unless you're going to argue that disease, war, famine, poverty, death, etc. are serving some useful educational purpose. Even if suffering teaches us a lesson, it would have been better had we learned that lesson without the accompanying suffering. And since nonexistent entities neither experience suffering nor are deprived on pleasure, and don't need to learn any lessons, suffering is completely redundant and malignant. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09413786373220779942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862170131521435894.post-54283798430605010432013-11-06T16:25:52.308-08:002013-11-06T16:25:52.308-08:00I've been writing about antinatalism on my blo...I've been writing about antinatalism on my blog!<br /><br />tl;dr it's really racist in addition to the problems you pointed out.Giordano Mirandollahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17335343316607433163noreply@blogger.com